Around the time that some fans were having a meltdown over Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi, Rian Johnson and Lucasfilm were planning to piss them off even further with a whole new trilogy helmed by Johnson.

Speaking to Rolling Stone, Johnson addressed the notion that he and J.J. Abrams—who made the first and third films in the sequel trilogy, The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker —didn’t communicate enough about their 2015 and 2017 Star Wars films, leading to a disjointed feeling between the two.

Rian Johnson has finally set the record straight on how much he and J.J. Abrams spoke in between "The Force Awakens" and "The Last Jedi"